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MTG – W/B Orzhov Philosophy, Strengths, and Weaknesses: A Magic: The Gathering Color Pie Study!

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TheManaSource (10 months ago)
I hope you enjoy the video! Make sure to enter the giveaway for A FREE BOX OF MASTERS 25! :)
Captain Jack (2 months ago)
Finish this series please
JC Jackson (2 months ago)
When are you going to finish these? Possibly do the 3 color wedges and shards? And maybe the 4 color Commander 16?
bartpeetam (5 months ago)
I hate to rush you but with magic returning to ravnica this year I would like for you to continue this series. I love the setting and philosophies of the guilds.
Walt Chocolate (7 months ago)
Dimir guild!
Jack Pabich (8 months ago)
When will the Gruul video be out?
Kagetsu 13 (5 days ago)
*sigh* still no Dimir...
Mark Almeda (7 days ago)
Still waiting for all of the other guilds
Barthalomew Ferdinand (11 days ago)
I hope this gets to Naya, its my favorite color combo.
i like fish bro (12 days ago)
3:40 Thats racist but true...
Virtual Kingdom (12 days ago)
I wonder how they’d play if they’d have Selysna splashed in. Tokens everywhere and whatnot. I just got into MTG and it seems like I’ve entered in at the right time. Ravnica has been easily one of the most interesting art stories thus far ( coming from yugioh) so it’s easily been one of my favourites to follow. Too bad you aren’t giving away Guilds of Ravnica or Ravnica Allegiances. I’m way more interested in continuing the story and collect all the cards. But hey Masters works I guess -_- :)
Virtual Kingdom (12 days ago)
Orzhov sounds interesting.
Gam3rN3rd 69 (14 days ago)
Is it ironic that I love the gruul guild and my best friend enjoys the orshov guild decks?
Juanmax1909 (16 days ago)
what about dimir, gruul and boros... i aching for it
Popcorn dudeguy (16 days ago)
do boros next
Shadow111111 (17 days ago)
are those real cards on the background?
Hyperspace Jester (17 days ago)
Not sure but I doubt it!
Soetpotatis (18 days ago)
Wow, so basically I worked for the real life version of the orzhov syndicate... Hilton hotels. Everyone is there for a "common goal" but in reality you always have to watch your back not to get stabbed by people you considered good friends and colleagues only so they can rise one inch up in the ranks. No one is your friend, everyone is just looking out for themselves and their goals and ideas while trampling the goals and dreams of others without any regard. They pretend to "help" you when in reality they just trade you like a slave around and at the end of the day there is truly only one person who is happy with the situation - the CEO because he earns ridiculous amounts of money while underpaying every other member of the corporation which those members accept in hopes that they will be "noticed" and get in the big bosses favorable side when they do notice them. Absolutely disgusting company full of liars and cheats,not to mention how they love to show themselves off to the public as this benevolent and great company that cares about others and how they love building up their own bloated ego to new heights.
Brightroar (20 days ago)
Orzhov: Knowing that what is best for the masses is to have the Orzhov rule them, to provide a semblance of stability and security purely so that the Orzhov can stay in power at the top of their parasitic society. A guild that creates the false pretence of security for the many in order to indefinitely benefit to few to a far greater extent.
Elijah Stevens (20 days ago)
You should do Gruul next pls
Rae Bracken (21 days ago)
*bangs fists on desk* BOROS! BOROS! BOROS!
K. Zachary Neese (25 days ago)
I don't think I agree with a lot of these videos. They somewhat approach the philosophy of the color pairings as if there is a control color within the pairing. I think that Orzhov as a guild fits this logic perfectly, but WB as a color pairing (and any of the other color pairings Wedge has analyzed) are more complex than this. To me it seems that when a card has two or more colors that that suggests a balance between those colors within the identity of the card (more symbols suggesting a higher leaning for one over the other). If the philosophy is approached in this way, it becomes clear that the relationship between WB is much more deep, and I believe this is true for all the pairings.
Dead Tree (1 month ago)
The first orhzav and gruul interaction "Ah yes hello may I have taxes" ... "YOU MUST DIE"
FrenchDipp (1 month ago)
I'd be down for Naya
Joshua Carr (2 months ago)
when are you doing dimir, gruul and boros?
Robin Marks (2 months ago)
White is decidedly not "good". It's dogmatic and fanatical about its dichotomous morality, and will do anything in the pursuit of order and control. White is authoritarian and oppressive, not objectively "good".
Jolt237 (2 months ago)
I love these videos, they cover each guild at their core. Now all we need is Boros, Dimir and Gruul. (P.S. Please do Boros first!)
Elijah Charwyn (2 months ago)
Will you do a Dimir?
Rattlesnakemeuk (2 months ago)
Have you given up on these vids? I thought they are some of your best. I need Gruul, Boros and Dimir! Would be a great time to do it too, given that Magic is currently back on Ravnica.
Telin Strong (2 months ago)
red and green please
Fawntox : (2 months ago)
"All those people who are black have given up on society"
Jahi Palmer (2 months ago)
I freaking love the guilds in Ravnica.
Eldraith Golgari (2 months ago)
when are you guys going to do the last three guilds
Christian Wright (2 months ago)
Boros! Boros! Boros! !!!!!!!
DaRKWizaRd9111 Gaming (2 months ago)
I play orzhov most of the time and this describes me. I hate most people, but I don’t want power. I hate most people but use people in projects ar school
Scammbled Eggs (3 months ago)
I always play white black for some reason because all the other colours just feel. But not until now I realised that my personality relates so much to this guild.
Kagetsu 13 (3 months ago)
Still waiting for more videos for this series T^T
The Artist Of War (3 months ago)
LN
Chris Freese (3 months ago)
Please do dimir next XD
Hobo on Heroine (3 months ago)
Not Gruul, then die !!!
Drako_Gamer (3 months ago)
Pls do gruul
Drako_Gamer (3 months ago)
Can you do red and green next?
Nick Brown (3 months ago)
Can you do one for Red & White Please
1337w0n (3 months ago)
Add some rampant paedophilia, and you get the Catholic Church. 👍
Victor Braz (3 months ago)
Where are the Gruul, tho?
kronosmorpheus1234 (3 months ago)
Still waiting on gruul and dimir
matthew myers (3 months ago)
Don't want to sleep tonight? Consider replacing the word "orzov" with American government.
Cabal Paxiarch (3 months ago)
Interesting perspective. I always thought of the Orzhov more like bankers rather than mobsters but I can see where you're coming from.
Kagetsu 13 (4 months ago)
Are we getting more of these videos? Or is this a canceled series...? Wish they did Dimir next
Elle Kenrith (4 months ago)
BOROS NEXT <3
Riki (4 months ago)
Just missing Gruul and Boros. Yup, that's totally it *looks to both sides* no one else is missing.
aayacrance (4 months ago)
So Orzhov is basically capitalism.
Travis LoneBear (4 months ago)
We need a house of dimmer
clampfan101 (5 months ago)
Are you planning to finish? It’s only just over half way done so far regarding color combos.
David Lauinger (5 months ago)
Gruul please? Once you are healthy Again
Derva Kommt von hinten (5 months ago)
where is the new color philosophy? im waiting :o
Thiago ventura de sousa (5 months ago)
Holy shit, i was just reading a book that says the exact same thing about society. Society bonds individuals by fear of the ambient, while individuals are THE object of fear of Society. SO, society bonds themselves to become fearless against individuals they don't recognize.
George Alexander (5 months ago)
Getting back into MTG, haven't picked up a card since like 1998, with my Kids. And we are loving these videos, for helping with our color picks. Can't wait for more color combos!
TheJcjonesacp (5 months ago)
what card was in 7:43?
TenRitNie (6 months ago)
Black and blue?
grndragon7777777 (6 months ago)
Thank you so much
DoomEdGamer (6 months ago)
Love the work sofar @TheManaSource, keep it up! Once you start doing 3 colors, could you do Blue White Green and Red Black Green? I plan on making a few super friends team decks and it would be interesting to see the synergies and focuses of these colors. The idea of a break down of what 3 color decks are good at might help me out with this as ive only been able to brew up mid range decks with 3 colors (which doesnt cut it with the current meta at my LGS)
Elam Bruce (7 months ago)
Wedge is in surgery and he needs help! I’m posting this on as many videos of his that I can in hopes that some people see. We love you Wedge. https://www.gofundme.com/anthony039s-emergency-surgery-help
jtpickard (7 months ago)
When are we getting more of these awesome color pie vids?
Lotus Logistics (7 months ago)
I love this video alone.
David Aaron77 (7 months ago)
I have an amazing Black and White deck. I call it my Weeping Angel Deck. I steal life from my opponents. For every point of life I gain target opponent loses that much life. I have life link, extort, two sorin's vengeance, and two defiant bloodlords.
Anonymous Eldritch (7 months ago)
My favorite guild, once again thank you for unveiling the inner machination of the guilds color pie. However once again by mentioning all sorts of non-Orzhov W/B cards you keep pushing that all a color pair can be is it's Ravnica guild.
Emmanuel Florez (7 months ago)
W-where is dimir :(
Zennuts1 (7 months ago)
Please do Gruul!
Selene Ravenmoon (8 months ago)
Please make House Dimir!
Disco Potato (8 months ago)
GRUUL!
BBZER0 (8 months ago)
Boros next please Ive been working on an edgar deck for a year now and i want help to make it effective
SayNoToDomo (8 months ago)
"Those who are black have given up on social constructs for power" -Wedge 2018
Volaan Gaming (8 months ago)
There's no dimir in this playlist
Jack Pabich (8 months ago)
So how does lifegain work with white? Like, what is the lore behind that? I can see how black is greedy enough to steal the life from others, but curious about white. Maybe just because they are known for life gain? Unrelated point, Gruul would beat Orzhov in the lore then, I'm assuming. Just because the Orzhov leaders seem to have more of the intimidating factor rather than weapon power. Keep up the great videos!
Roland Simmons (8 months ago)
Dimir please
Jiub Ninebark (8 months ago)
Orzhov is my niche but angus mackenzie is my champ. ENCHANTMENT!!! For days and thumbs up if you get the reference lol
Logan Frandrup (8 months ago)
Can't wait for the day you go over Boros
Piccolok 7 (8 months ago)
Man reminds me of me playing this in allies
booyaman85 (8 months ago)
Gruul Plz!!!!!!!
booyaman85 (8 months ago)
My favorite group one word Omnath!
Jose Echevarria (8 months ago)
Once you finish the Ravica Guilds, do you have any plan to talk about the Alara Shards, Tarkir Clans and the 4 color combos?
Decideo Mirage (8 months ago)
In a search that has zero results, in a window that was never made, is the video that doesn't exist.
Jackie Singleton (8 months ago)
So the Orzhov is basically the Republican model. Rich evil at the top exploiting the fear and need to belong of the masses to maintain their hold on power. P
pZane x (9 months ago)
Do Dimir pls
wemrich (9 months ago)
Gruul really does need to be covered next
M O D (9 months ago)
Boros next please
Ryan Blanchard (9 months ago)
Where are the Boros?
n petrikov (9 months ago)
I just found this where is black/blue ?
Garrett Howes (9 months ago)
Orzhov was always my second favorite guild. The Extort mechanic was insane
Emperor Rhogar (9 months ago)
Do Boros.
David Rice (9 months ago)
Great! Now you just gotta do Boros, Gruul, and Dimir
Ozrith Clay (9 months ago)
So the Orzhov is basically a corrupt church or socialism.
Matthijs Kollen (9 months ago)
Orzhov == League of Villains
Felix Rivera (9 months ago)
I always noticed that my bw is very slow and has little punch in 1v1. Now in any multiplayer format that draws agro away from me it has always been rediculously strong, like I broke my friend group and had to shelve the deck for a while because blood artist is super rude when tokens are dying en mass
Reuben Oakley (9 months ago)
Personally, my Orzhov deck is one of my fastest.
Ian Astraquillo (9 months ago)
Really awesome videos Wedge! Please do the Boros Legion next! =)
Joshua Gutierrez (9 months ago)
So what would you call a deck that runs white black and blue? I think red blue black is called grixis.
hiddennijafist (9 months ago)
while I can why white would often be seen as the "pawn" in this pairing, it can also be the other way around; where one's cause is so noble or necessary that it must be achieved no matter what the cost. Sorin for example, he seems to truly believe in protecting his plane from whatever threats that may arise, and will use every move necessary - whether it be turning against his own kind or destroying his own creations to defend the many.
EloquentTroll (9 months ago)
Not Gruul, then why do I care?
SquirrelSword (9 months ago)
This may be your best and most accurate representation of the guilds so far.
Levi Belch (9 months ago)
Where are the other guilds?
Kahea Michioka (9 months ago)
I'm hoping once you finish the dual colors you move to the tri colors, love these though, very interesting
SSP AMV (9 months ago)
Magic's philosophy lore is so deep. The deeper the better ;)
Terrell Kitowski (9 months ago)
Is there a dimir philosophy video? 😬
FlamingFeather (9 months ago)
So is the Boros legion coming up next?
therealbahamut (9 months ago)
Welcome back, Wedge. Figured out how to turn on that "patient predator" and fight back, I hope?

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